TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:04 pm

Sounds great Chris and glad i got a taste of it when i visited you,something that must be repeated.But just one thing, what the heck is wrong with thonged assistants???
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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by sticksb » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:36 am

Not a thing until the new members realize the two leggy , buxom
drop dead beautiful assistants were there ONLY for the sign up at
the fern club and were back down jockeying wings @ Hooter's when
the ink was dry .

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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:35 am

sticksb wrote:Not a thing until the new members realize the two leggy , buxom
drop dead beautiful assistants were there ONLY for the sign up at
the fern club and were back down jockeying wings @ Hooter's when
the ink was dry .
Well you know what they say, "A sucker born every minute," :lol:
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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by sticksb » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:33 pm

Flex gym in Syracuse is the only surviving old school weight room
in the zip code . Late 60s-early 70s there were 4-5 dozen hardcore
mainstream gyms and another dozen "key clubs"...

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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:17 am

Hey Chris, i hear this from folks all the time,it is a sad story too often repeated.
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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:15 am

Yesterday my old mate Lou Pontillo came by for a workout.Lou is down from Maine visiting family for the 4th of July weekend and usually makes time to come over and see me.I have spent a lot of my time training alone, but there are a few people who i enjoy training with as they go in the gym to work as hard as possible and save the talking till later. Lou is one of those people. He has been training most of his life and has engaged in hard physical labor.A tough man,trained in wrestling,judo,Karate and several Chinese martial arts with real world combat experience, 5' 9" and 220lb of muscle .Even though it was hot as Hades with high humidity we still did a good warmup to prepare for what was to come. Only the first exercise, TBDL, had rest time, all the following exercises were done with minimum rest between sets, I went first and Lou followed until completed.All movements done slowly and strictly to failure.
TBDL 2sets 1x25, add weight 1x12
Weighted dips alternated with supinated pull downs
1arm DB press alternated with hammer curl
Weighted Ab wheel roll outs
Front neck raise
Wrist roller
Collapse LOL.
Great session and then we had a good catch up over a whole milk, Greek yogurt and whey protein smoothie. God training partners are few and far between and thankfully i have a few that i can always have a good session with.
Regards,Peter.
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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:16 am

Just back from England and was able to catch up with some friends and get some great training sessions in too. The first workout i had was with my nephew Tez.He has a gym set up in his attic, and being a welder by trade has made quite a few pieces of training equipment. He started training as a young lad with his dad also in the attic at the family home.The first time i trained with him he was 17 and quite strong at the time. So over the years we have always done some training when i am in the UK. However since the local weightlifting club closed its doors after almost 70 years in 2017, i now train much more frequently with Tez when over there. He is 20 years younger and does not want the old man showing him up so he really pushes me and i respond in kind.We both finish a session drenched in sweat and satisfied we have worked as hard as possible that workout. While we have our own regular training that we do most of the time, when we get together we just make a workout up on that given night and try different things every time. Super-sets, drop sets, pre-exhaust are just some of the methods we try. One particularly good session we had was just 4 exercises done for 100 reps each. First was hack squat starting with 20 reps going back and forth until the 100 reps were achieved, drenched in sweat and thoroughly warmed up we then went on to dips using B/W only, again staring at 20 reps and continuing till 100. Next we did low pulley row in the same manner and finished off with ab wheel roll outs. I also went to see my old mate Kev Fitzgerald a few times and had a couple of good workouts in his garden shed gym. At 84 Kev is still moving some creditable iron. Although we did not train that day,Kev and i went over to visit Gil Waldron and had a great lunch together and of course talked strongmen and training. While i did not get chance to see David, Tom Balchin and Paul Shaw this time we did have some nice long and interesting phone conversations.Be back there in June next year.
Regards,Peter.
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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by Octave10 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:51 pm

peter yates wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:08 pm
NEVER HAVING BEEN A FAN OF TECHNOLOGY I RESISTED USING A COMPUTER FOR QUITE A WHILE. HOWEVER IT IS THROUGH THE COMPUTER THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME OUTSTANDING NEW FRIENDS WHILE KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH OLDER ONES.
THIS THANKSGIVING I TOOK AN 8 HOUR TRAIN JOURNEY FROM NEW YORK UPSTATE TO ROCHESTER TO SPEND TIME WITH TONY GRISWOLD, A FRIEND I MET IN JAPAN AND WITH WHOM I WENT TO LIVE IN CHINA. THANKSGIVING MORNING AFTER A HEARTY BREAKFAST WE DID A CONDITIONING WORKOUT IN ANTICIPATION OF THE DINNER HIS MOM WAS COOKING FOR THE FAMILY GET TOGETHER. WE STARTED OFF WITH ALTERNATED PULL UPS AND PUSH UPS WITHOUT REST DOING AS MANY AS WE COULD EACH ROUND FOR 4 ROUNDS. THAT GOT US PUMPED UP AND THE OLD HEARTS TICKING AWAY. THEN WE DID A KETTLEBELL COMPLEX WITH ONE BELL STARTING WITH CLEAN AND PRESS,GOBLET SQUAT, BENT OVER ROW, STIFF LEG DEADLIFT AND SWING.5 REPS EACH. TONY DID ONE THEN I WENT WHILE HE GOT HIS BREATH BACK THEN BACK IN FOR 4 ROUNDS. WE FINISHED OFF WITH SOME DEADLIFTS USING THE BAR AND BUMPER PLATES HE HAD GOT FROM STICKS EARLIER THIS YEAR.
TALKING OF STICKS, ON THE THE SATURDAY WE DROVE THE HOUR AND HAVE JOURNEY TO VISIT CHRIS NEAR SYRACUSE. CHRIS HAD MORE EQUIPMENT FOR TONY INCLUDING A POWER RACK, HEAVY DUTY POWERLIFTING BAR AND AN ORIGINAL GERARD TRAP BAR. TONY HAS BEEN OVERWHELMED BY THE GENEROSITY SHOWN BY CHRIS AND NOW HAS THE MAKINGS OF A FINE GARAGE GYM.
CHRIS AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR SEVERAL YEARS WHEN WE WERE BOTH CONTRIBUTORS TO THE OLD MUSCLES OF IRON SITE. WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS TOGETHER AND HAD MANY INTERESTING PHONE CONVERSATIONS BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD MET IN PERSON AND IT WAS GREAT TO DO SO. AS WE ALL KNOW ON THE SITE CHRIS IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND INVENTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAINING EQUIPMENT DESIGN. HE INTRODUCED US TO THE "ORANGE DRAGON Rachat de crédit et trésorerie " AND INVITED US TO PLAY. CHRIS HAS CREATED A FULL BODY LEVERAGE TRAINING SYSTEM IN HIS POWER RACK THAT WORKS WONDERFULLY. THE NIGHT BEFORE I HAD NOT SLEPT WITH VOMITING AND DIARRHEA AND HAD EATEN NOTHING THAT DAY BUT AT THE SITE OF THE "ORANGE DRAGON" I JUST HAD TO HAVE A GO. SO WITH CHRIS LEADING WE TOOK TURNS ON THE FOLLOWING EXERCISES IN A PUSH PULL FASHION.
1 LEVERAGE PULL DOWN, REGULAR GRIP THEN PARALLEL GRIP.
2 " BENCH PRESS.
3 " SHRUG.
4 " OVERHEAD PRESS
THREE ROUNDS THEN WE ALSO DID SOME LEVERAGE DIPS. DESPITE THE LACK OF SLEEP AND FOOD I WAS REALLY FIRED UP AND THAT WAS MAINLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WAS TRAINING WITH TWO REALLY TOP PEOPLE AND THE ENTHUSIASM THAT WAS PERMEATING THE GYM. OF COURSE THE DRAGON WAS ALSO PLAYING ITS PART PROVIDING SOME GREAT VARIETY TO OLD STANDARDS AND I COULD FEEL AREAS OF MY BODY I DO NOT USUALLY FEEL WORKING.TONY PUMPS UP REALLY WELL AND YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE EXERCISES WHERE HITTING HIM THROUGH HIS SHIRT. BUT MAINLY IT WAS JUST GOOD TO BE TRAINING WITH GUYS WHO THINK AND TRAIN THE SAME. WE SPENT SOME TIME DISCUSSING MANY THINGS AND PUTTING THE WORLD TO RIGHT BEFORE IT ALL TOO QUICKLY CAME TIME TO LEAVE. THANKS CHRIS FOR A GREAT VISIT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME.
REGARDS, PETER.
hello, can you explain the principle KETTLEBELL COMPLEX WITH A BELL STARTING WITH OWN AND PRESS
thank you

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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:15 am

Hi Octave10, welcome to the forum.In answer to your question, first of all a complex is where you pick a group of exercises using any method be it barbell, dumbbells, cables, kettle bells or body weight,and move from one exercise to the next without rest.Usually you keep hold of the training implement until all exercises are complete,take a short rest then continue.This is a great way to get a lot of whole body work in a short period of time and is terrific for conditioning, works well for combat athletes. Also a great way to loose unwanted fat with a controlled diet of course.We used one kettle bell on that occasion, but as stated use any tool of choice.It is based on Bob Hoffman's[York] simplified barbell training course [available in the HOPC library.] In Hoffman's course certain exercises are done with a certain weight, then more weight is added for others.Both methods are useful. In the 60s and 70s the idea of Giant sets was often in the muscle mags, a group of 4-6 exercises using opposing muscle groups was used in a similar manner,though the weight would be adjusted for each exercise.EG. bench press-barbell row-incline press-low pulley row-dips-pullups.This would be one round,3-4 rounds would be done usually. Hope this explains adequately.
Regards,Peter.
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Re: TRAINING WITH FRIENDS

Post by peter yates » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:22 am

I am inserting this here even though due to the lock down and social distancing most people will training alone.This is probably best called "training with neighbors," due to fact that in the past few days while taking the dog for a walk i have seen various neighbors working out in their garages that i never knew trained before now.Maybe they usually go to the gym or maybe it is because i walk the dog when they are usually at work that i have never seen them train before,but once things get back to normal i will have something new to talk about with them.First is a young lady next door who is renting the house and i have only seen her a couple of times in the past few months, well there she was yesterday in her garage pumping out some very respectable push ups.As anyone who knows me will tell you this is my #1 upper body exercise.Not sure what else she did, i didn't want to come across as a perv,but judging by the standard of the pushups she is in good condition overall. Then just down the street a little on the other side i saw a young man doing DB clean and press in his garage and noticed and Olympic barbell too. On my walk i saw his wife running around our hilly neighborhood,obviously a fitness family,good role models for their kids me thinks. Then at the end of the block two teenage brothers were having a good time with their power rack, bench and Olympic set.So a few of my neighbors taking the opportunity to do something other than binge on Netflix and fast food and keep in good shape.Who knows in the future we may have a training session together.
Regards,Peter.
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