Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by psychologist » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:10 pm

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Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:26 am
Thanks for the quotes on Hackenschmidt.

Florian Hemme and Jan Todd wrote a paper on George Hackenschmidt which said he ate lots of sweets
The Russian Lion in fact bragged about being able to eat copious amounts of sweets himself and encouraged others to do the same: "I can eat a pound of chocolate candy in half an hour and enjoy it. [ .. . ] Pie, cake and puddings will do you no harm."
https://www.starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v12 ... 203p03.pdf

There are also many newspaper reports and claims from eyewitnesses that Hackenschmidt was a huge steak eater.

The strange thing is that Ina Zweiniger-Bargielowska a historian who authored the scholarly book Managing the Body: Beauty, Health, and Fitness in Britain 1880–1939, says that Hackenschmidt avoided junk food and confined himself to a diet of "fresh, uncooked food and nuts". She says that Hackenschmidt rarely ate meat during his prime career and that he converted to a strict raw vegetarian diet after retirement.

Based on all of what I have read it is clear for me that Hackenschmidt was a big meat eater during his wrestling career and later became a vegetarian after retiring but there are many contradictory sources about what he actually ate. It's interesting.
Daryll, as mentioned elsewhere, this is the problem we face when looking back in time and trying to find the truth.All we can say is the truth is elusive. I am not sure of your age but i suspect quite young,even so you will have gone through various changes in outlook etc. I know at my age 69 i have gone through many stages in my life including in my training and diet.So someone who knew me or reading something i wrote 40 years ago may quote from that time.Same with Hack he lived a long and interesting life and maybe all of what has been claimed is true, only some of it or very little of it.We can only surmise.Still it is interesting trying to find out.
Regards,Peter.
Yeah I am 29, I have tried a lot of diets over the years, veganism did not work for me but pescetarianism and vegetarianism did. I will never eat meat or eggs because of the amount of amount of animal abuse that goes on but I do consume other animals products like honey or fish oils.

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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by psychologist » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:14 pm

I would also add Annette Kellermann to the list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Kellermann

She was a lifelong vegetarian and lived to aged 88.

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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by peter yates » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:39 am

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:14 pm
I would also add Annette Kellermann to the list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Kellermann

She was a lifelong vegetarian and lived to aged 88.
Hi Daryll, glad you included her.She is on my list for the Australian PC series i am writing.Quite an amazing lady for those times or any time really.
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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by peter yates » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:12 pm

Thanks for that one Daryll, a gentleman i had not previously heard of but a real all round athlete.I notice the article mentions Murray Rose.I read about Rose in the 1960s and his diet which was pretty much Vegan.However in his early 40s i read an article by him saying that while he was strong and healthy when young as he aged he began to experience several health issues, some related to Vit B12 deficiency, so he started including some animal protein in his diet and they were overcome. I also had a friend who was a karate/aikido instructor who had the same thing happen to him around 40, he began including eggs and yogurt in his diet and was fine after that.I think much depends on the individual, others may not have had the same issues.
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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by peter yates » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:13 pm

Doug Hepburn became vegetarian later in life when he started exploring Eastern religions. My feeling is that Bill Pearl began vegetarianism around the same time he started to follow Shri Chinmoy.Chinmoy was a controversial character in the weightlifting community due to his claims of hoisting stupendous poundage.This maybe why Pearl claimed his change of diet was for health reasons and not religious in nature. I would have to check the timeline for this though and as such is just supposition.
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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by psychologist » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:02 am

Vince Gironda was not a vegetarian but he did experiment temporarily with a lacto-vegetarian diet and promote it to others.

https://physicalculturestudy.com/2015/1 ... rian-diet/

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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by psychologist » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:04 am

peter yates wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:13 pm
Doug Hepburn became vegetarian later in life when he started exploring Eastern religions. My feeling is that Bill Pearl began vegetarianism around the same time he started to follow Shri Chinmoy.Chinmoy was a controversial character in the weightlifting community due to his claims of hoisting stupendous poundage.This maybe why Pearl claimed his change of diet was for health reasons and not religious in nature. I would have to check the timeline for this though and as such is just supposition.
Regards,Peter.

From what I have read online Doug Hepburn was struggling with obesity and alcohol problems and this is why he converted to vegetarianism. It's hard to find reliable sources on this so I will have to do some more research. I have not seen any religious link for these guys vegetarianism.

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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by psychologist » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:08 am

Larry Scott was never a vegetarian but some people I saw on Twitter have mistakenly claimed he was.

Scott was fond of whole milk and 1965 commented “Basically I eat a lot of meat, cheese and eggs,” coupled with protein supplements, he said in an interview with Iron Man magazine in 1965.

http://biglee-murali.blogspot.com/2009/ ... scott.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/spor ... at-75.html

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Re: Which physical culturists were vegetarian?

Post by psychologist » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 am

I was looking online for other physical culturists who ate a lacto ovo vegetarian diet. Apart from Bill Pearl it has been suggested that Reg Park and Steve Reeves also ate this diet and Park was known to eat giant goats cheese sandwiches and full cream milk. However, Reg Park was never a vegetarian as he ate lots of meat.

There's some useful links here on what Reg Park and Steeve Reeves ate, they both loved dairy and neither were vegetarian.

https://www.strength-oldschool.com/blog ... eeves-diet

http://forum.regpark.eu/index.php?topic=116.0

There is Steve Reeves Hercules Cookbook released in 2010. I have not read it, it is overpriced!

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