Who were the oldest physical culturists that ever lived?

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Post by David Gentle » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:48 am

This subject is interesting and most frustrating as i have a page out of an early Iron Man with ages listed both young and old of strongmen. In no order, just as i think, Terry Robinson wrote to me right up until his death, he also painted very well, i have his letters and will find them out. In the list of which i can only find one page and not even the date, it lists Prof Anthony Barker as over 101" and another guy name of Roy White at "over 108" someone i dont know off hand.As i guess at time of list, it goes on to say various names as "over 90" Paul Bragg, who Bob Kennedy knew, said he was around 90 and still alive at the time we were corresponding. wish i had the full list and date of mag, it has a photo of Hack saying he lived to 90.by contrast the list of who died young is interesting, with almost all dying of heart attacks, which may have lead to the common myth that "strongmen die young" Floyd Page was 37,Louis Cyr 49 Karl Swoboda 50, Sandow 58 Bobby Pandour 38 and so on, it then goes on to list strong men who supposedly died at an "average" age, but is not much use as at the time of the article, most were still alive anyway.I do have books with most strongmens profiles in, including their deaths, but it would be a mammoth task to list them all.Personally i dont think the weight training or lifting had any effect whatsoever, but am a believer in its your genes that list your date of demise. My father died in his 40s, but my mother was over 95 and had all her marbles . Finally if we bring the female of the species into the list, i am sure we would have some amazing figures, at this very moment our "WW11 Sweetheart Very Lyn has just died age 103. They say women live longer to clear up the mess men leave when they die, sound right to me. David Gentle One last thought, it used to be quoted that the Russians lived the longest, but the more probably reason was that the men simply lied to avoid military conscription. The only elixer of youth is love.(just found out the list was by David Willoughby)
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Re: Who were the oldest physical culturists that ever lived?

Post by peter yates » Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:32 am

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Bob Delmonteque died age 92.

Arthur Robin is currently 93.

There is not much modern information on him but I take it he is still alive. No obituaries etc.
Hi Daryll, like Joe Rollino, Bob Delmonteque was younger than his stated age.I will have to check but he was either 85 or 87 when he passed. As i have mentioned before it is not always easy to get at the facts and most writers just repeat what has already been written without checking the details so we are the ones who have to. Joe Roark is someone who i trust to discover the facts about many personalities and events,he is relentless for finding the truth.Arthur Robin, what a terrific physique he had.
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Post by peter yates » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:54 pm

psychologist wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:52 pm
Bob Delmonteque died age 92.

Arthur Robin is currently 93.

There is not much modern information on him but I take it he is still alive. No obituaries etc.
Daryll, after consulting with Iron History forum, i have come up with the following information regarding Joe Rollino. From an aggregate of military records, SS records [both not always reliable] and census records [more reliable] it seems that his date of birth was March 23 1916,thus making him almost 94 when he was killed in January 2011.As previously mentioned he may well have lived much longer had he not been killed.
Bob Delmonteque [real name Mike Diaks] was according to his gravestone born in 1926 and died 2011. This would make him 85 not 92. His age has been recorded differently at various times during his life. Even so both lived full and interesting lives and for a decent number of years.
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Post by peter yates » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:46 am

Just remembered another one,not bad for this aging brain, Physical Culturist,wrestler, judoka, actor, stuntman Joe Robinson.Joe just made the 90 club Born 1917 passed away 2007.Who remembers "A kid for two farthings?"
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Post by Internalfitness » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:52 pm

Joe's brother Doug celebrated his 90th birthday in February this year - good genes!

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Post by David Gentle » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:43 am

RE Joe Robinson, i knew him as a wrestler back in the 50s (He had a brother Doug and they practised Judo) I took up his offer and had Judo lessons from him at a Southampton club at ten bob or fifty pence a lesson. He was charming and yes i did see a Kid for Two Farthings, he also acted as a "French" Tarzan in movies. Last i saw him was about 3/4 years ago at the britishwrestlersreunion.com and he even pretended to remember me......Back to the list of bodybuilders birth and death dates, I have asked Diane to put on a couple of scans, but am now in the midst of a huge listing of a mix of oldtime strongmen and personalities, to modern bodybuilders, which i will send to Diane when finished to use as a reference source, All dates have bee crossed checked for accuracy .Because i wrote for so many journals, it was one of my jobs to write obituaries which i did for many famous men, some personal friends through correspondence or meeting at shows. All publications pre prepare obits for possible candidates and it was one of our jokes, when writing for Bob Kennedy at MMI, i used to ask him now and then "How was he feeling? or should i make a start on the obit" Sadly i did end up writing his. We have lost a lot of good men, lets appreciate those families and friends we are lucky to have left. David Gentle
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Post by peter yates » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:30 am

Thanks David, looking forward to this.Yes you are right,lost a few good ones in the past couple of years,let's appreciate those we still have left.
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Post by drob357 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:47 am

David Gentle asked me to publish the following info on Charles Atlas.
https://www.davidgentle.com/atlasc.pdf

David is currently compiling a list of the oldest physical culturists that will be later published on our website.
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Re: Who were the oldest physical culturists that ever lived?

Post by peter yates » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:28 pm

Thanks David and Diane, here are a few more i came up with.
Sig Klein 85, Vic Boff 85,Bob Hoffman 87,Tommy Inch 82, Bill Hunt 80, Karl Norberg 90, Bill Harris 99, Milo Steinborn 86, Charles Atlas 80, Fred Massaro 89. John Gilmour was still powerlifting and alive in 2014 at age 92 but not sure if he is still with us now.
My own view point is that the length of our lives is more to do with luck [accidents and infections] and genetics than anything else.People have often asked me if exercises will make you live longer, My reply is maybe not but it will make your life better. Many of those i know who have trained all of their lives did so until almost the time of passing or only suffered a short illness.So to me quality of life is more important that length of life.
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Re: Who were the oldest physical culturists that ever lived?

Post by Mobster » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:35 am

Of note, if it hasn't been said, is the link between most of the older athletes (with one or two exceptions) being light to middle weight. To be blunt there aren't many 300lb 90-year-olds on the list. It's one thing to lift weights and or exercise, which by it's very definition is limited to short bursts of effort over a n hour or two a day vs your body having to deal with the stress of the extra bodyweight all day and every day.

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